Spiritual Well-Being with George Barker

by Grahame Mackenzie on June 3, 2013

George Ballooning

Is Spiritual Well-Being

a Prerequisite for a

Long and Happy Life?

 

Is spiritual well-being important for you?

Is it even important?

Here at Spirit Today we aim to be a little different by celebrating the people who have done great work and wonderful service in the world of survival. Combining this great work and wonderful service with a healthy dose of open-minded scepticism and an interest in psi phenomena is today’s guest, 94-year-old Mr George Barker B.Eng., M.I.Mech.E., from Afterlife Essays. George is a fine colleague of mine and has pretty much seen and done it all. I wanted to get to know him better so I asked him if he’d be kind enough to write up  ‘George Barker’s Story’ for us and he generously obliged. Surely if anyone knows his onions , it’s George!  So without further ado..

Enter George..

I was born on Sunday, 14th July, 1918, in Prestbury, Cheshire, still a pretty village in spite of now being besieged by the mansions of footballers and bankers.  When I was aged about two I found myself in Whitley Bay, from where my father commuted to his work in Newcastle upon Tyne, so I was brought up a ‘Geordie’.  Ships were still built on Tyneside and many of my school friends were apprenticed to Swan and Hunter, North-Eastern Marine, etc and later became seagoing engineers, but I became an RAF aircraft apprentice in 1934 and learnt how to maintain airframes and engines, passing out from RAF Halton as Fitter-rigger grade II.

Halton orchestra

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I also directed (on alto sax) the Halton Orchestra both as pit orchestra for shows and as a dance band, and I also played trombone in the station band.

In 1937 I joined No 26 (Army Cooperation) Squadron at Catterick and was proud to be given a fitter’s mate and a Hawker Audax biplane to look after.  We were soon re-equipped with Hawker Hectors and then with Westland Lysanders, which we took to Abbeville in northern France in October 1939. Hector of 26(AC) Squadron, Catterick - George BarkerI am on the right of this group at the tail of a Hector.

Whilst we were at Catterick a group of us held experimental séances and one member turned out to be a trance medium.  We chatted with a spirit group who, like us, were experimenting.  They seemed to be people who had been over there a long time and had lost interest in who they had been on earth, because we could not get any of them to give details of their earth life, whilst they were chatty about their current life. They didn’t actually refuse but the question didn’t seem to mean anything to them! It’s a long time ago now, but I can remember asking how they travel so fast from one place to another and one said that when we travel from A to B we have to pass through the intervening space whereas they travel from a to B without doing so.  When talking about music one said their music didn’t have any bar lines.  When time is different there this seems to make sense and I’ll be interested in checking this when I arrive there myself.

26 Sqn Quartet - George Barker

In this photo I’m the corporal on the left and the one on the right is my best friend J G Cooke who was killed in action in a Pathfinder Squadron Lancaster.

Not long before we went off to join the BEF we tried out a meeting in an Andersen shelter thinking the new ambience could be advantageous and the spirit leader said conditions were extremely good and did we have any special requests. I said it would be interesting to talk to one of the old scientists and they managed to get Galileo Galilei to speak to us.  He said nobody had asked for him before so he was quite interested.  I asked how he felt about the way he was treated. He said he was not badly treated but, believing what he had been told about what life in Heaven was like he was not looking forward to it.  Then a great surge of joy was felt by us as he said how he had found with delight that he could carry on with his experiments with improved instruments.  Of course one has to admit one can’t prove the spirit wasn’t an impostor, but if it was he was extremely clever.

When the blitzkrieg started on 10th May 1940, our squadron was ordered back to England, all eighteen Lysanders having first to launch an attack on the enemy and then land in England – three didn’t make it.  My three (I was a corporal by then) were full of bullet holes and one had the top rudder hinge completely shot away, its duty having been taken over by the control wires.  My lorry was strafed by a noisy Stuka but the bullets missed us by a few feet.

Life After DeathAs happens in war I rapidly rose to Sergeant, Flight-sergeant and F/O Engineer Officer.  During some training in Edinburgh early in 1944 I went to a séance with Helen Duncan, and had a sitting with a medium at the psychic college there.  The Duncan phenomena were heads with the faces of the communicators in the ectoplasm.  As far as I can remember there was as it were a little sea of ectoplasm, like mist but more ‘solid’ from which projected a head-sized portion on which faces appeared. The attempts to materialise faces were not all successful, including my father’s, and in desperation, as a little evidence,  he said, “There were five in the family”, which was correct. I thought my father was very enterprising to try to make the huge effort to communicate. I didn’t think Helen looked very well, which was not surprising in view of her horrible experience earlier in WW2. Naturally there were many occasions when the phenomena Helen produced through the help of her etheric team were much clearer and better. This is often related to the quality of the sitters and if the vibrations were not quite right, it could throw everything thing off. This also happens when the medium in question is not feeling well, and as is well known, Helen’s health wasn’t the best. All who have knowledge of this area are fully aware that in order to produce something of note our ‘instruments’ (bodies) must be in fairly good condition.

After WW2 I studied for a B Sc (Engineering) – now called B Eng – degree and later joined ICI and maintained and designed chemical plants for most of the next thirty years. The last ethylene plant on which I was senior project engineer is still running, but no longer owned by ICI. First Huntsman took them over and then SABIC, so we must have done something right!

I augmented my income from playing sax and clarinet in dance bands until an aunt gave me her viola and I took it up and played in amateur orchestras and in string quartets.

After I retired at age 61 with a tiny golden handshake we bought a flat in Fuengirola, between Málaga and Marbella, and stayed there for four months in the winter, which was enjoyable.  My wife Mavis sadly developed Alzheimer’s disease and died in 2006 after five years in my care and another five years in a nursing home.

We have four children two of each sex, nine grandchildren and ten great-grandchildren at last count.  My younger daughter is a professor in the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque.  In October 2001 I had a balloon flight in their annual Balloon Fiesta.

George Barker with viola

I took up computing and was persuaded to be secretary and webmaster of the orchestra of the Bournemouth Philharmonic Society, in which I play viola.  Since I quite liked making simple websites I initiated ones for the Bournemouth Spiritualist Church, and the now defunct Parkstone Spiritualist Communion, which I handed over to experts as soon as they were available. I do one now for the Ringwood Christian Spiritualist Church, the New Forest Aviation Group and my January 1934 intake at RAF Halton, 29th Entry.

I have got to know a number of mediums and a friend is a brilliant psychic surgeon who is assisted by aliens. Although involved in the healing, she can talk with you, tell you what is going on and describe the appearance of the spirit surgeons present, some of whom are observing the operation.  She is in demand for healing horses too. She is a very private person and doesn’t advertise herself on the Internet or in the press.

Although I have sympathised with Michael Roll’s disapproval of Spiritualist religious sects, each with its own creed, I do not avoid them because they still do some good.  In particular the Bournemouth (Bath Road) Spiritualist Church is a pleasure to visit and it has an excellent library.  I have a foot in both camps.

Life after deathMy current interest in the afterlife is two-fold.  I am curious about what the afterlife is like, and how many and what bodies we have, and I own and read books by Michael E Tymn, Robert Crookall, Oliver Lodge/Raymond Smith, Robert Fontana, Roy Stemman, Arthur Findlay, Anthony Borgia, Ursula Roberts, Brigitte Rix, and others. Some books deal with one or only a few areas of the hereafter, but the three Lodge/Raymond Smith books have a wide coverage and are to me the most fascinating, along with Crookall’s extremely detailed review of the dying process and the bodies we have.  I know that we are told that accurate afterlife facts cannot be stated in earthly language so I confine my mental picture-building to the lower spirit levels.  Even when we get there I am told there are many closed doors which you have to be qualified to open.

I am also interested in spreading the word, how it can be done and whether the knowledge will make much difference to our shabby backward planet.  I have been to several Bill Meadows physical sittings which don’t use ectoplasm and I can see that if the clever spirit people organising these phenomena could build a shield against wreckers so that such sittings could be on stage instead of just to thirty chosen safe people it could convince at least some people.  According to Zerdin Phenomenal this is being worked upon but it could be a long time-scale project.  Michael Roll’s idea of a film of materialisations is also hopeful.  My own idea is to try to interest media people in the sheer quantity of good evidence for an afterlife so that they cease to think we are all nut cases.

Life After Death - Afterlife EssaysThe first chapter of my new website called Afterlife Essays was written last year, 2012, as a compact display of the sources of evidence for such people, who, pressed by the daily necessity to write their columns, find their news, think up subtitles, and redact don’t have much time to study what their built-in prejudices tell them is nonsense anyway!  I am not in a rush to get it known – I would like to write another chapter first.

I often wonder whether making our knowledge more available will do much good. After all, most Victorians when presented with the evidence seemed to treat  ‘getting messages’ as an amusement rather than an inspiration to do good and persuade others accordingly, and there are many people of that ilk today, as well as billions with hate filled religious beliefs set in concrete.  However, nil desperandum, we have to do our best on multiple fronts to change things for the better.

I  think that there is a fallow field out there. Most of the people I have come across are spiritual to varying degrees. Whatever they did or didn’t believe about the afterlife, religious or non-religious sects and so on, they helped others in trouble, brought up their offspring to be good citizens and radiated love and kindness. This giving of service as Silver Birch put it is the basis of spirituality as I see it and it comes naturally to many people, although we are well aware that others are motivated by self-gratification and hate. The other aspect of spirituality that I see is becoming less attached to sensuality and more aligned with those spiritual environments we shall find in the hereafter. I don’t think it is at all easy to work at this part.

If only those people who are to some extent spiritual and receptive to notions of a sensible earth/afterlife concept could be convinced by one way or another of its reality, it would make a good start towards improving our world. This is what 94 years on this Earth plane has taught me. Being spiritually well means a positive engagement with others, with self and with our environment. It is not always easy, but because adversity gets our attention, keeps us focused and forces us to think, we grow. Thank you.

There is more about me here and here if anybody is interested.

Written By George Barker, B.Eng., M.I.Mech.E., from Afterlife Essays.

What a remarkable man! I wish there were more gems like you around  George, thanks for sharing your interesting journey with us. I admire your energy and joie de vivre.

There is more about George in this BBC article from October 2010.

If you enjoyed George’s story then please leave a comment below.

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Grahame December 19, 2013 at 3:40 pm

I just wanted to let everyone know that George has just passed away into the Spirit World at the age of 95.

We have very much respected George’s work with his “Afterlife Essays” research website. He contributed to valuable postings on this website too and we will all miss his input.

Hopefully, we will be hearing from him in the future, as I am sure he will want to continue his interests on ‘the other side’.

– Grahame

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Chris Robinson July 22, 2013 at 4:36 pm

Happy Birthday.. sorry its a bit late.

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George Barker July 21, 2013 at 7:44 pm

Thank you all for good wishes! I had a luncheon time party on the 13th in the London Tavern, Ringwood – 26 from Dubai, Texas, Albuquerque and all over England, eight musicians amongst the family did our party pieces and 14 of us on Sunday had a lunch at the excellent Cloud in Brockenhurst. The following week I got my Blue Badge, some free hearing aids, and, on the way back from taking a bow to be re-haired prior to my visit to Dartington Hall International Music School in August, some plants with some of a £95 Garden Centre Voucher gift. Quite a good week!

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Stephen July 21, 2013 at 10:15 pm

Many happy returns George. 95! With advancing years comes great knowledge…You prove this theory. Congrats Sir.

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Brigitte Rix July 21, 2013 at 5:55 pm

Warmest CONGRATULATIONS Lord George!
What a lovely 95th birthday present!
You are a wise gentleman who deserves recognition.
I hope you enjoy (or have enjoyed) your special day!

“Félicitations et Joyeux Anniversaire” !
Brigitte

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Michael Roll July 21, 2013 at 5:41 pm

Well done George. Keep going, one of my best pals at the golf club is 95 and is still playing golf.
I know Matthew will take notice of that excellent Silver Birch statement. He has already taken notice of it with what the priests pumped into him from birth. They offended Matthew’s reason and insulted his intelligence. Therefore he has now rejected their supernatural threats. Millions are now doing this all over the world following 9/11 and 7/7. Thankfully people can now read and write. Priestcraft only really worked when people were denied education. This is the reason why the ruling classes fought against education for the masses with all their might. Hence the reason why we did not have a Secretary for Education in the UK until the end of the 19th century. All the education bills were thrown out by the House of Lords.

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Grahame July 19, 2013 at 11:03 pm

George!
Happy 95th Birthday!!
お誕生日おめでとうございます。
I hear you have been given a new title for your birthday..
Lord George Frederick Barker of Wansley Manor.

Well blow me down Lord George. Hope you had a smashing day!

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George Barker June 7, 2013 at 3:16 am

I wasn’t telling Matthew to stop worrying, just to accept gracefully that he is a worrier. I am telling him that since so many nut cases are going to the afterlife and like to show off you have to follow Silver Birch’s advice about messages from over there:

“There is nothing that appeals more to an old soul like myself than to see you testing everything at the bar of reason. We enthrone reason as the great guide. Always reject what your reason rejects, no matter through whom it comes or the source. These are the truths that should appeal to reason and intelligence. If reason revolts and intelligence is insulted, then discard them.”

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Norman Hutt June 7, 2013 at 2:26 am

Good advice from George and Jo, Matthew. Don’t worry, and accept that we can’t get to know everything, but the evidence for survival is overwhelming and you will be the same when you pass over as you are here. Love attracts love when you get there.

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Jo Bradley June 7, 2013 at 1:27 am

Hi Matthew

George is right just ignore the likes of Geoff Cutler (no idea who he is though!) how would he know any better than the rest of us how many levels there are let alone who gets stopped at what level, its just speculation. Just concern yourself my friend with satisfying yourself without question that we do survive the death of our physical bodies, and always be mindful that other people’s opinions are just that, their opinions.

Regards Jo

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George Barker June 7, 2013 at 1:04 am

Matthew, There are all sorts of people. You are a worrier. Norman and I are people who don’t worry. We just have to put up with what we are. As for the “revelations” of Geoff Cutler and his ilk about high level spiritual domains ignore them. These realms probably can’t be discussed n our language.

George

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Norman Hutt June 6, 2013 at 11:35 pm

All will be revealed. ( I hope!).

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George Barker June 5, 2013 at 7:38 pm

I keep wondering the same Matthew, and being almost 95 I’m looking forward to getting a little nearer to finding the answers soon. They could be in celestial semantics not entirely translatable into Earth lingo so I might not be able to enlighten you.

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Matthew June 6, 2013 at 11:55 pm

Yeah, well, given my generation could slide into civil war and die violently any time now, I need something a little better than “hope.” It bothers me that there’s so much speculation and not much concrete evidence; it really makes me wonder if the entire thing is a delusion sometimes.

Here’s something that’s been bothering me: there’s a guy named Geoff Cutler who either runs or contributes to a site called Ghost Circle. I remember reading something by him that said something like “natural-love spirits stop at the sixth level,” and that implied that Source/Mind/God would eventually “cut off” any spirit that doesn’t make it to Him/Her/It.

He didn’t go into any more detail as to why, or what happens to said spirits. I am hoping it just means they get “deleted,” but given we really have no idea what Source’s morals are, or if it even knows or cares that we suffer, what would stop it from leaving us in some kind of hellish side dimension or just plain leaving us alone to watch the universe wind down helplessly and descend into chaos and fear?

It’s stuff like this that bothers me. A lot of other commentators, some dead, say no such thing, that everyone makes it to Source eventually, so I don’t know what to believe. And then there’s the reincarnation thing; lots of people saying “no it doesn’t happen,” lots more saying yes it does…how the heck can we find the truth?

I am not satisfied with “we’ll find out when we get there.”

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George Barker June 4, 2013 at 7:23 am

It is encouraging that so many people are keen to cooperate in the uphill task to improve Earth conditions. Brigitte Rix’s spirit masters in her book Truths Lies and Distortions shed some light on why it is uphill. In Chapter 6, “No Big Bang”, they say, “You are the result of thought-out processes which were first worked out mentally here in our World of Mind and Light, then they were put to the test by creating them both in our world and in the physical world which (it had been decided) was to be created for a very interesting and intriguing experiment!” and
“Those creative Beings have always existed, as there is no death in the World of Light and Energy” and in Chapter 10, Creation Part 2,
“Trap of the Flesh. Unfortunately as aeons passed, people developed a greater sense of belonging to (and identifying with) that flesh body! Instead of seeing it as a vehicle, it became in their eyes a tool for pleasure not for experiments …….” and “So discomfort and disease set in and people started to suffer whereas they should have been happy forever with a Spirit of Light within a Flesh Body to guide them through a more physical and solid world than they had known”.
In other words we are living out an experiment by ancient spirits that went wrong so no wonder it’s not a bed of roses, and we must do our best to put things right whilst not expecting quick results.
Elsewhere Rix’s informants tell of numerous parallel universes of different atomic construction where the experiments have had happier outcomes.

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Matthew June 5, 2013 at 10:05 am

So are these people trying to help us, or are they leaving us to our own devices?

And if they’re so powerful, and we’re such a giant lot of screw-ups, why not do the merciful thing and either destroy us outright, or “ascend” us and skip this whole tragic cycle, knowing that other similar experiments have succeeded (and presumably how).

Funny, this is a lot of the same problems with the old, theistic idea of Yahweh…

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Jo Bradley June 3, 2013 at 6:40 pm

Indeed Stephen :)

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Jo Bradley June 3, 2013 at 6:38 pm

Hi Michael, how wonderful re your father, not only good evidence but very comforting too.

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Jo Bradley June 3, 2013 at 6:30 pm

‘For entertainment purposes only’ is actually quite offensive I agree. Spiritualism is a recognised religion now, not I like labels or religion, Im a free thinker, but we dont see these notices outside anyother church do we?

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Stephen June 3, 2013 at 6:36 pm

Agreed Jo…I would also consider them more apporopriate before any party political broadcast as they deal with lies and we deal with truth ;-)

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Grahame June 3, 2013 at 8:45 pm

George

Public sittings vs closed circles? Also, money changing hands or not?

It’s a shame that much of the credible testimony we have concerning materialisation sittings concentrates on the marvels of the appearances and gives short shrift to any information given to the sitters. I feel a lot of potentially good evidence is being overlooked.

The evidential value of the information that comes through these materialised spirits naturally has to be taken on its own merit, but with a quality medium, the evidence usually stands up to the checks.

Knowing that we survive the death of our physical bodies (if it were common knowledge on the news etc) would change the way people behave if they knew they would be held accountable for it. We would tred more carefully. So having fun is okay, but there’s a lot more to play for.

You’ve opened up an interesting debate here George!

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Stephen June 3, 2013 at 8:50 pm

Grahame. Yes the whole choice of whether to believe or not is very intersting. I have a freind who will not even discuss anything remotely after life orientated. He openly admits that he chooses not to believe as life is much easier that way and it allows him to and I quote…”screw people before they screw me and with no conscience to get in the way!”

So I go back to my post earlier. Some folks would not believe no matter how good the evidence. The reason? Because they choose not to!

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Grahame June 3, 2013 at 9:00 pm

Hi Stephen :)

There will always be ‘that select few’ and that has to be expected: “I’m not drunk” says the man lying in the hedge speaking to the police officer. That’s the law of averages and they’ll come round in their own time.

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Stephen June 3, 2013 at 6:15 pm

Another very good read and fascinating how we all come from so many different backgrounds and lives. I have freinds that cannot believe someone who is a computer geek like myself is also spiritual and very much into the after life and its workings. I guess they think we should all live in horse drawn caravans and have skulls as ornaments!
One of my biggest annoyances is the “entertainment only” before any mediumship or ghost TV shows. It appears the powers that be are still out there and still trying to suppress the truth.

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Matthew June 3, 2013 at 3:35 pm

Something I’ve been wondering about: Why is the SPR not doing work with mediums?

I’d like to see them work jointly with CSICOP. Yes, I know, CSICOP is a bunch of “professional wreckers” as Mike Roll puts it, but the idea would be to develop a protocol that CSICOP agrees would prove these phenomena, and then implement it.

I’ve got an idea, actually: an hermetically-sealed chamber, with its own air supply good for several hours of course, with a maaterialization medium bound to a chair in the center, with lines of paint or ink drawn across him/her so we’d know if s/he was trying anything funny.

The chamber should be lined with CCDs and sensors across all wavelengths, from longwave radio to X-ray, and be sending data in real time as well as recording to high-quality digital media. Everyone should be watching in real time, from reporters to CSICOPs to SPR personnel…but the medium shouldn’t be aware of this; s/he should be thinking it’s purely passive recording to be done at a later time.

No guidance should be given; s/he should just attempt to materialize or channel (direct voice) anything s/he can, come what may.

WHY hasn’t this kind of experiment been done?! It would settle the matter once and for all!

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Stephen June 3, 2013 at 6:18 pm

Hi Matthew. A medium friend of mine once said that if Abraham Lincoln appeared on the Whithouse lawn and danced the Hu la…People would still refuse to believe. They are just not ready or able yet.
But I take your point that just maybe it would be enough for some people and if just 1 person comes over to the “knowing” way of life then it has been worth it.

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Norman Hutt June 3, 2013 at 7:30 pm

Hi Matthew
The SPR has worked with mediums, most recently at Scole, but generally they work from a parapsychology viewpoint without real scientists to endorse their work. CSICOPS don’t have real scientists like physicists or chemists either to my knowledge.

We have to remember that all the activity, methods, and protocols are provided by the etheric teams, not us on this side, we just sit for what they provide when using our energies. We just make sure there is no fraud and provide favourable conditions.
Nobody knows whether what we know of as EM radiation is related to vibrations of the spirit world, or something entirely different unknown to our science. Even those on the other side can’t explain it. How do we know that all that digital technology would not interfere with the communication? We know that weather conditions has an influence.
Channeling is trance, done by mental mediumship, it is not direct voice. It is important to get the terminology correct and ask questions to get the truth.

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Grahame June 3, 2013 at 7:45 pm

Discussing (part of what you mentioned Norman) just now with Michael Tymn in a private email. Copy and paste for accuracy: “I recall that D. D. Home informed Crookes that he could not produce any phenomena on Derby Day in England because there was too much negativity in the form of pleasure seeking, hedonism, indifference to spiritual matters, whatever name be given to it.”

And as George mentioned in his story, even the sitters and the health condition of the medium can affect the quality of any potential phenomena.

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Jo Bradley June 3, 2013 at 10:24 pm

The production of ectoplasm brings health issues to the channel generally. Most pm’s are developed over a number of years, long before they are normally aware of having the correct physicality for this work, so poor health can be suffered from an early age.

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Matthew June 7, 2013 at 12:35 am

Whether what goes on on the other end of this is related to EM or not makes no difference; for us to perceive it, it has to “lower its vibrations” and condescend to appear in the EM spectrum or we wouldn’t be able to perceive it.

Thanks for the correction on DV vs channeling though. In principle, channeling wouldn’t be detectable since nothing physical materializes, but the “ectoplasmic mask” used for Direct Voice would be.

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Norman Hutt June 7, 2013 at 2:15 am

Although we can only perceive in the EM spectrum of course, in my view the ‘higher vibrations of spirit’ are a complete mystery which we cannot define and we only assume to exist because of the phenomena of physical mediumship. Crookes scientifically proved the existence of what he called a ‘psychic force’ which can still be proved today and I am intrigued as to whether there are vibrations faster and shorter than Xrays helping to carry this force but still on the EM pattern, or are something entirely different perhaps we would be unable to understand. Speculating, what about the ‘third eye’, does it enable us in the physical EM world to see what is formed by spirit vibrations, whatever they are?

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Jo Bradley June 3, 2013 at 3:18 pm

Sorry George, I speak only of physcal mediumship public seances. I fully agree with you re mental mediumship, I have seen excellent evidence given too.

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Norman Hutt June 3, 2013 at 2:25 pm

Hi George,
Thank you for your extremely interesting article. I think that we should use different criteria with regard to physical mediumship, as opposed to mental mediumship. They are equally valuable as survival evidence, but need to be of high quality. Clairvoyance from public platforms or media these days is not often very convincing in my experience, but is suitable for public demonstrations when of high quality. It is however subjective even when convincing, and is difficult to gain acceptance by the majority.
Physical mediumship of high quality gives objective survival evidence which can be endorsed by scientists and witnesses. What is needed is a big rise in standards of both forms of mediumship, leading to the whole subject becoming ‘normal’ and not spooky,weird, scary, sensational, or New Age. The spirit teams made huge progress towards this in previous centuries, but it needs bringing back to what it once was, but in line with modern technology and enlightened science.
Norman

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George.Barker June 3, 2013 at 9:33 am

Hi Jo,
I think you are as it were throwing out the baby with the bath water. Some public demonstrations can be off-putting but a demonstration of clairvoyance by some one who can place accurately the recipient of the message and identify clearly the giver without asking probing questions provides good evidence for a novice. I knew Eddy Paul of Southampton, now promoted above and I know Ray Jones, who worked in Bournemouth for a while, both of whom simply gave out amazingly accurate information, whilst forbidding feedback, in a most convincing way. They are not the only ones but their ilk are rather rare these days. I would not want to deny interested investigators the chance to observe such evidence. Very few people get the type of evidence you have seen. George

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Jo Bradley June 3, 2013 at 9:06 am

I should of said step brothers, his sons. Healing that what this brings, public seances are entertainment and while they continue to be about sensationlism they will never truly be accepted as truth on a large scale without men of science almost rubber stamping the paranormal as reality. I will get off my soap box now before I fall off!

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Jo Bradley June 3, 2013 at 8:55 am

Hi George

I think the most important thing of all this, is being lost. Let me share a personal experience and it might highlight why Im so against public seances as this experience would never be able to take place in such a public setting.

In 2008, my father was suffering with leukemia, he had asked to pass away at home with his family rather than in hospital, to which we all ofcourse readily agreed. In the last few days of his life he had a morphone driver which kept him un-conscious but also free from any discomfort. He had been unconscious for about 48 hours, myself, my sister and two brothers were all sitting very quietly at his bedside, the overhead light was dimmed and it was about 2am, my father was an atheist and nothing could persuade him otherwise. We had all been sitting quietly for about 30 mins when all of a sudden a ladies voice started to call to him, we all heard her fairly softly at first then louder and louder, she was speaking through independent direct voice. My brothers and sister are not clairaudient so I was surprised when they heard her I thought I was the only one. The room felt intoxicated with love, She kept calling to him, we listened not interrupting at all, it was his mother our gran. She had come to collect him, he opened his eyes despite the heavy sedation and his eyes widened in absolute surprise given his belief system or lack of one I should say. She stayed with him calling to him to go with her until he closed his eyes again, we were all crying it was so beautiful. He fell back into un-consciousness and two days later as my mother was kissing his forehead early one morning, his eyes opened again, he smiled at her and said ‘crossing over’ before he took his last breath and departed his body. It brought relief to me on a personal level as I was worried he would reject whoever came for him because he had no belief, it also brought healing to us all knowing that he was absolutely going to be with his mother. This type of evidence could never been experienced at a public seance and although it was at his bedside I have been privilaged to be apart of many such moving and intimate conversations within the safety and privacy of a home circle.

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Michael Roll June 3, 2013 at 5:14 pm

Jo, I had a similar experience when my father was dying at home. He had no interest in the afterlife, unlike my mother. Just before he passed over he turned to my mother and said, “You are right Jo (Also my mother’s name) I can see my mother and father waiting for me at the bottom of the bed.”

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Stephen June 3, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Thank you both for sharing those experiences. You have no idea how much it helps people, all evidence helps our troubled minds that try to grasp the reality of a continuation after leaving this earth.

I find myself almost like a sponge, I soak up all I can, read all I can and yet still the blasted materialist eats away at me and I wonder if I am deluding myself. All the evidence screams NO but what is it with our human brains incapacity to accept the incredible. I think it was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle that said…

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

But how the brain has trouble with this.

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George Barker June 3, 2013 at 8:29 am

JO I take your points.

Particularly about even séances restricted to about 30 approved sitters such as the Bill Meadows ones I’ve been to being entertainment. None of us needed convincing about survival, we were just having an entertaining evening with a bonus of encouraging Bill’s development! It would be dangerous to let unbelieving Tom, Dick and Harry in and risk what happened to Alec Harris in South Africa.

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Jo Bradley June 3, 2013 at 8:04 am

Excellent article, thank you. I have to remark on one thing though regarding public seances being taken into a theatre so that more than a few chosen people can view. Whilst I understand the point your trying to make, public seances are already purely for entertainment purposes with flying trumpets and dancing indians! Disclaimers have to be displayed stating clearly by law, that they are for entertainment purposes only, so to take them to an even more public arena such as a theatre which is a purpose built building for entertainment, will simply worsen the current situation.

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